tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN May 5, 2019 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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friend or foe. north korea fires off a new missile test. president trump says he still trusts kim jong-un and the president passes on a chance to warn vladimir putin against interfering in the next election. >> we didn't discuss that. >> 2020 democratic presidential candidate senator amy klobuchar responds in moments. playing to win, democratic voters zero in on electability. what makes a candidate most electable. the former newark mayor makes his pitch. >> here in newark, we refuse to wait. how would senator booker's approach work across the united states. democratic presidential candidate booker joins us next. economic high. the lowest unemployment rate
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since 1969. >> we have an economy that maybe is the best economy we've ever had. people tend to like you. >> that isn't reflected in the president's approval rating. how will the economy affect the 2020 race. >> hello. i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is seeing double. president trump is in washington dealing with two political realities on the domestic front. the president and the u.s. got excellent economic news, unemployment at 3.6%, the lowest since 1969. but president trump remains quite unpopular with the american people at large and on the world stage, he's on defense over his relationship with north korean dictator kim jong-un after north korea launched multiple test missiles on saturday. the president is facing criticism over an hour-long phone call with putin in which the president says he discussed the mueller report but not
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russian election interference. he contradicted top foreign policy officials by restating putin's claim that russia is not involved in venezuela as if it's a fact. all this is setting up a difficult dynamic for democrats as they take on the president in 2020. is it the economy, stupid? as the old james carvilletrope goes or will the election be decided on other factors. this morning two exclusive interviews with 2020 democratic presidential candidates. we went to newark, new jersey, for a special sit-down with cory booker in his home city and state. i want to begin with democratic senator amy klobuchar joining me from her home state of minnesota. senator, let's start with the strong economic news on friday, the economy added more than a quarter million jobs, better than expected. unemployment at its lowest level in almost 50 years, wages grew faster than prices did. do you give president trump the credit? >> i give our workers and
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businesses the credit, jake. when you're out there across the country, you see people working harder and harder every day, and this has meant that our businesses are strong and we're selling american goods. that being said, a lot of people aren't sharing in this prosperity because of the cost, the cost of college, the cost of health care, the fact that the president had promised he would bring down the prices of their prescription drugs, and that just hasn't happened. so when you get out there and you see the energy out there and the concern, talk to farmers who are trying to sell their soy beans. there are people out there that are not sharing in this economic prosperity and it's not fair and it's not the american way. so while we attribute a lot of this to our workers and to our businesses, we know we can do better as a country. >> unemployment is the lowest it's been since i was nine months old. you're really not going to give president trump any credit for that in terms of tax cuts or deregulation or anything he's done?
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>> you know what i'm thinking about? i'm thinking about when we were in that downturn and president obama came into office and he had to deal with that with the congress to try to, one, right the financial industry and, two, get us on the road to recovery. i remember that the republicans were giving him grief when he took any credit for that. so i think that we have had policies in place starting with president obama that have aided that recovery. but what i believe is that we should be governing from opportunity and not chaos. my problem with president trump -- and i think the problem you're seeing from the citizens of this country when you mention those numbers and what's happening -- they see chaos every day. they wake up in the morning and see a mean tweet or they see some inconsistent policy that causes chaos during the day. they want to have a leader that their kids can look up to. >> north korea test fired multiple projectiles. the president responded on twitter, quote, anything in this very interesting world is possible. but i believe kim jong-un recognizes the potential of
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north korea and will do nothing to interfere or end it. he also knows i am with him and does not want to break his deal to me. if you are elected president, would you be willing to meet with kim jong-un? >> i would always be willing to meet with leaders to discuss policies. my problem with how president trump has handled this is not that he's had meetings, it's that there isn't a plan and isn't a real negotiation tactic and he's not working with our allies as he should. maybe he should listen to otto warmbier's mother who just this last week talked about the fact that we should be upping the sanctions and putting more pressure on kim jong-un. i don't see it a as victory that he launched these test missiles. i don't see that as a victory at all. i also don't believe we should be conducting our foreign policy by tweet. it's a very, very hard thing to
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do, but you've got to quietly work and got to have summits that produce results where you don't just fly over, get no result and come home. >> senator, you said on cnn this week, quote, we have another presidential election coming up and this president has every reason not to protect that election, unquote. what do you mean? are you suggesting that president trump wants foreign election interference in 2020? >> first of all, we have ample evidence that he has not been responding to protect our election security. you know what? russia may have done -- they didn't use a tank, didn't use a missile, but they used a computer and invaded our democracy all the same. in the past he's used the word meddle. well meddling is what i do when i call my daughter on a saturday night. this was actually an invasion of our democracy, okay? this isn't asking your kid, what are you doing tonight? this is an invasion of our
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democracy. >> you're saying he wants that again? >> i don't know what he wants. all i know is he's not acting like the leader to protect our national security. because if he wanted to do that, his administration wouldn't be stopping the secure elections act in its tracks. they made calls from the white house when my bill with senator langford was headed to the floor. they wanted to stop that bill that would have required to get assistance from the federal government for election equipment, would have required backup paper ballots. multiple states don't have backup paper ballots. it would have required better auditing, better information sharing. we know his own homeland security secretary was told not to talk to him about the threat to this election. we know his own fbi director has said that 2018 was a dress rehearsal and russia is going to try this again. his director of intelligence said they're getting bolder. all this happens. what does he do? he coddles up to vladimir putin again. has a nice talk with him and
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never brings this up, according to his own press secretary. that is wrong and he then makes it worse by calling it a hoax. >> i follow you on twitter -- >> i think we need to protect our nation's security. as marco rubio said, one time it was one party and the next time it will be the other. >> i follow you on twitter and i notice you said voters ask you much more about the opioid crisis in this country than they do about robert mueller. you unveiled a new $100 billion plan to fight drugs addiction and fund mental health care. taken strides declaring a public health emergency and signing bipartisan legislation in october and u.s. attorneys are now suing pharmaceuticals. do you think the trump administration deserves any praise for their efforts on this issue? >> they have done some good things and i've worked with them on that. but the point is, everywhere i go across this country, i don't
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think there's been a town hall meeting where somebody didn't ask me about mental health and drug addiction. it's not just opioids. ask people who live in our black communities what's going on. it's also meth, also cocaine. all right. what is going on here right now is we have got people that don't know where to go for help. one out of two americans have addiction in their family or with their close friends. one out of five americans have a mental health problem. for me this is personal. my own dad struggled with alcoholism my whole life growing up. he got two dwis in the '70s and nothing happened. by the '90s, he was facing a choice of jail or treatment. he chose treatment. in his own words, he was pursued by grace. that was because of his faith and because of treatment and our family and his friends. i think every american should have the right to be pursued by grace. that means enough beds in this country for people with mental health problems if they're facing a crisis.
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that means doing something about our mounting suicide rate, for farmers, veterans, lgbtq youth. that means instead of just talking about this, putting the money into treatment. i have a proposal paid for by, yes, two cents per milligram fee on these opioid pharma companies that made tons of money off the backs of people who got addicted. you can use it for not just opioids, but for the other drugs as well as mental health. it means making sure on the road to recovery you've got a job and a place to live. there are so many people in this country crying out for help. we made this transition away from the mental health institutions for good reasons, but we didn't replace it with anything. i also have a background from the criminal justice system. i know what happens when people don't get help. >> lastly, senator and quickly, if you can, the front runner, former vice president bide hit
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the trail in south carolina for the first time this weekend, senators bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are already pointing to major policy differences they have with the vice president. where have you disagreed with joe biden? >> i'm looking forward to the debates to talk about that. i think he's just launched his campaign. i can tell you where i'm coming from, jake. i'm someone running from the heartland, someone taking on the issues of our time, whether it is infrastructure proposal i put out there. i was the first candidate to put out a fully paid for infrastructure proposal. i'm someone taking on this mental health and addiction issue and i've been fighting on pharma prices my whole life. i'm looking forward to the debates with all the candidates so we can air out our differences. i think you'll find, also, there's a lot more that unites the democrats that are running than divides us. the key is that we need a leader in the white house and i believe
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i am that person who can unite this country who can bring us to a better place in our politics and to start governing from opportunity instead of chaos. >> senator amy klobuchar from the land of 10,000 lakes, thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> thank you, jake. great to be on. speaker nancy pelosi is telling her party to stay in the center to beat president trump in 2020. is that what the democratic presidential candidates are doing? my exclusive interview with senator cory booker, another 2020 candidate next.
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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. new jersey democratic senator cory booker just qualified to join his fellow democrats on the debate stage this summer. he's pitching himself not only on his record as the u.s. senator but as the former mayor of newark, new jersey. we went to newark and sat down with senator booker to talk about the city's turn-around and his white house bid. >> the jobs report came out friday. half a million new jobs added. the last time the unemployment rate was this low, i was nine months old, you were eight months old. >> yes. >> 1969. >> yes. >> how do you make a pitch the economy is thriving, let's get rid of the president. >> you don't need to make a
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pitch. listen to voters. when you walk around my block, you ask people if the numbers he touts, i'm the only one and they say they have to work two jobs to keep mimself in housing. americans are struggling. wages are low, for the last four decades, i don't think they've budged that much. >> gone up 3% which is more than it went up during obama. >> first, i love that trump is taking credit for a recovery that started under obama. who is this economy going to work for? we have a tax plan that was all about giving the wealthiest people more of a break. my vision for this country is target things like massive increasing income tax credit to actual workers. we have to make sure this is a shared recovery. right now it definitely is not. >> what do you say to somebody
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who says, yeah, i'm not crazy about trump, but the economy has done so much better and republicans keep telling me, the democratic nominee is going the raise my taxes and he is talking about raising taxes, so that might hurt the economy, hurt my bottom line. what's the counterargument? >> we live in a nation with far more patriotism than people are expressing. what i mean is folks want the best for the country. we know if your family doesn't have a great public school, great health care, we're all suffering as a result of that and creating greater costs. as the chief executive of this city, i saw us treating addiction and mental illness with jail and hospital emergency rooms is a far more expensive way to do this. i'm going to run a campaign that speaks to all of america. i don't think democrats should be defined by beating republicans. we should be defined by uniting americans. this is a moment where across this country, farm towns, factory towns, cities to suburbs, we have so much common pain where americans are seeing, from the cost of prescription drugs, cost of college, we're all hurting because we have not
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designed an economy that invests in each other. >> let's talk about education. you just raised that. when you were mayor of newark, you pushed charter schools a lot. this was a big part of your tenure here as mayor. you even worked with the devos family. i know you voted against her for education secretary, but you worked with her. are you still part of the charter school movement? is that part of who you are? >> i worked with newark residents to design local solutions. if you lived right where i live right down the street from the projects that i lived in for almost a decade and listen to the anguish of parents to live in a country where it is so divided amongst educational destinies that we had parents would often use fake addresses in suburban neighborhoods within a mile or two from newark borders. they'd have private investigators and remove them
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and send them back to failing schools. the folks here, we went door-to-door, polling. we all agreed on a strategy was overwhelmingly popular for solutions that worked for us. now we're the number one school system in america for beat the odd schools, high poverty leading to high performance. sending kids to college. if you were a black kid during my tenure, your chances went up 300, 400%. schools that beat the suburbs. >> am i hearing you wrong. it seems like you're reluctant to say you're part of the public charter school movement still? >> i have always said i will fight for the kids that are too often ignored in our country. so you can put it any way you want, jake, but when you're a mayor of a city as a former chief executive, you find the solutions that work. high performing charter schools was part of our larger solution of getting every kid there. i stand by that and continue to do that. at the end of the day, charters are 3% of our public schools. we need to have a president with a vision for all families, all districts and make sure to
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create solutions. by the way, i don't think the federal government should be dictating, we tried that under bush with no child left behind. >> clarity on the issue of medicare for all. you are a co-sponsor of bernie sanders' medicare for all bill which will ultimately get rid of private health insurance for everything other than extraneous things like cosmetic surgery. you said you favor a health plan that does not do away with private insurance. are you supporting a bill you don't believe in? >> again, as a guy who had to run a city in crisis when i took it over, you don't let your purity of what you're looking for undermine urgent results needed right now for the people in your community. they don't have time wait for us for years down the road. we have the most inefficient system on the planet earth. we spend 20% of our gdp, 18% for the worst results of the industrial nations.
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we have lots of people taking profits off the system. all the end pen tours are not going to patient care. we have a system designed more toward the back end of problems when they're more expensive, hospital emergency room, not dealing with preventative care, early detection, early intervention. this system is broken. >> do you support medicare for all? >> i stand by supporting medicare for all. i'm the pragmatist, i'm going to find the immediate things we can do because we're not going to pull health insurance from 150 million americans who like their insurance. my union brothers and sisters who negotiated for their health insurance, it's going to have to be a pathway to getting there that will start with the common sense things and unite americans. >> with all due respect, that's not what the bill says. it says, quote, it shall be unlawful for a private health insurance coverage that duplicates benefits provided
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under this act. you favor a pragmatic approach that doesn't go that far. do you feel pressure from liberal and progressive activists, you need to sign up for medicare for all when you didn't believe that? >> i'm the good that stood in the saddle and made change. i don't bend to pressure and i focus on people. in america health care should be a right. that is where we need to go to. by the way, most americans agree if you're in this nation, the wealthiest country on the planet earth, it should be a right. there's many ways we can get there. i believe if we're designing our system, medicare for all is the right way to go. i'm realistic to say, and you know this. when i become president we may have a 50/50 tie in the senate and my vice president is going to have to get a lot of exercise going to the senate and breaking ties. we'll have to do things that might get me towards my goal of expanding access and lowering cost. >> you're on the senate judiciary. attorney general bill barr testified before your committee.
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speaker nancy pelosi says he lied to congress. do you agree? >> i think, number one, if you have seen the conduct of an attorney general, he's eroded his credibility to the point where i believe he should resign. clearly misled congress. >> should he be impeached? >> i believe he should resign. i think everything should be on the table at the end of the day. if you have a person that has undermined the urgent independence of the attorney general's office, a guy who is literally overseeing on going investigations in criminal activity in this president and you lost your ability to trust, acting more like rudy giuliani than the independent attorney general of this country. i'm definitely worried. when you read a report, a testimony to deceit which literally shows a campaign that had multiple dozens and dozens of contacts with a foreign adversary doing things like sharing polling information that if any of my colleagues were running for president did that with a super pac would be
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. more with our exclusive interview with democratic senator cory booker and why he says he has the best approach to taking on trump. >> north korea fired multiple short range projectiles this weekend, the first since late 2017. president trump remained optimistic on twitter saying a deal will happen and kim jong-un, quote, knows i am with him. what do you make of all this. as president would you be willing to meet with kim jong-un? >> this is the problem. we have a president that continues to mislead the american people. you remember his deplorable
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tweet came out and said, no, need to worry about the nuclear threat from north korea any more. he's been much more about bluster and being braggadocious as opposed to substantive strategy and making sure we're checking a north korean dictator. of course i'll meet with our enemies, but under the right conditions, using every leverage i have to focus in on the goal. arkticulating a strategy for getting there. we have seen him contradict his military leaders who have to go in and clean up. we have no strategy when it comes to foreign policy. what's eroding is not only our position in the world, but our alliances themselves and our allies as i travel internationally, they're beginning to question our commitment to fundamental democratic values when you have a president that seems to buddy up with chairman kim or duarte or putin, more than he is with
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may and merkel and the people that are our real allies that can work with us to holding not just russia accountable, china accountable. these are critical allies we need in our trade deals, what we'll need when we deal with global climate change. it's been very frustrating and i heard this on both sides of the aisle to have a president who has been lacking tratstrategy, unpredictable, undermining his diplomacy cores and even undermining his generals when it comes to things like syria policy where he tweets out where he said we're pulling out of syria imminently. >> there's a divide right now in the democratic party among presidential candidates between some like vice president biden who seem to see president trump as an aberration and others who see him as a natural, next republican president, this is who republicans now are. where do you come down on that? do you see him as an aberration
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or do you see him as this is what the republican party is now? >> i think as long as the conversation with about donald trump, i can see him talked about in every single interview, then he's winning. i beat a machine in newark. there's a documentary about it. i didn't make it about him. charismatic leader at the top of it and i didn't make it about him, i made it about the people. we energized an entirely new electorate to come out and we won. i think we're going to be defined as a party, not by what we stand against but what we're for. i want my democratic party not to be defined as trying to beat republicans at a time when we need to reunite americans to a sense of common purpose and common cause. i do not think this is a time to fight fire with fire. i ran a fire department, it's not a good strategy. i walked into a town hall and a guy says i want you to punch donald trump in the face. i said, hey, man, that's a felony.
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us black guys, we don't normally get away with those things so often. let's sit down and let me tell you why the best strategy is doubling down on the best of who we are, by talking about love in a beloved community and not the twitter trash talking and trolling we hear from the white house right now. i know donald trump wants us to fight him on his turf, on his terms. what's needed right now is not more of that. we won that by expanding the moral imagination about who we are and who we must be going forward. >> while we were in newark, senator booker and i also took a walk in his neighborhood where the issue of gun violence has become quite personal for him. >> how prevalent has gun violence been in this area? >> you're literally standing where last year, as was relayed to me, the shooter was over there with an assault rifle.
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this is not an intellectual issue, not something i hear about on the news. you're standing in a community plagued by gun violence. this section is one of the most violent places in new jersey when i first moved here. you live in a community where fireworks go off on the 4th of july, kids evidence behavior of somebody with post-traumatic stress. they think it's gunshots. where you see your neighborhood, shrines to children, teenagers who were on the sidewalk, teddy bears and candles. for me, i so badly want to be president because if i'm president of the united states i'm going to bring a fight to the nra that they have never seen before. i tell you what. the people in this community know this is not just horrific, mass shooting after mass shooting. we have mass shootings every day. every day we lose, we lose dozens of lives by not solving this problem. there are common sense things that even nra members think we should do and aren't getting
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done. >> i understand you're introducing gun legislation in the next few days. >> i'm going to come at this like folks have never seen before. i'm going to use policy and tactics to end this nightmare in this country. i come home and reminded by the survivors of shootings, one shooting in a neighborhood kills a business at a restaurant. people lose jobs, family members lose income. this is a problem that is a crisis level in our country. our lifetime, more people died from gun violence from all the wars, from the revolutionary war combined. >> what can be done? republicans control the senate, as you know. second of all, you know this. a semi-automatic rifle used in this shooting, that's not typical. >> no. it's 5%. >> mostly it's handguns, right? >> i've analyzed this issue -- this cause has been a part of
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my -- this isn't new for me. so i know the levers you can pull to get pretty dramatic results, just by having universal background checks. the murders we don't talk enough about, intimate, where spouse kills you. violence against women goes down 40% in states that have enacted those laws. there are things we can do, levers we can pull to make us much, much safer but we're not doing them. i do not accept the excuse that we've tried before. i have seared into my mind the gruesome realities literally with a gunshot victim bleeding to death as i veinly tried to stop him from dying. >> you were here? >> it was not right here, no. around the corner. that's the irony. i can name shootings of bodies i've seen on the sidewalk. i can name hasan washington, i can talk about the kids i knew growing up whose lives were ended by gun violence. i am running for president for
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many reasons. this is one. we will get it done. we will get it done. >> literally, minutes after i finished that interview, two people were wounded in a drive-by shooting just blocks from the senator's home. coming up, 2020 polling shows the biggest issue for democratic voters is electability. but do the most electable candidates end up actually proving to be the most electable? that's next. ♪ - [woman] with shark's duo clean, i don't just clean,
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>> we have the best numbers. i think we have the best economy we've ever had. we have more people, katherine, working right now than ever in the history of our country. so i don't know why somebody beats that. >> it is the economy. it's always the economy, but that's not the only reason that we should elect a president or in this case retire one.
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>> president trump laying out his economic case for 2020 as hillary clinton says, yes, but what are voters going to ultimately think? let's discuss. how does the president let me put it a different way. how did democrats push back against the president given the fact that the economy is thriving. it's not working for everyone. but just on the numbers. lowest unemployment since i was 9 years old. i'm 50. like wages are rising. maybe not high enough. but they are rising and also for people at the lowest end of the income ladder. what is the argument against it? >> couple arguments. number one, what we're seeing in these numbers is an overfocus on unemployment. you talked about wages rising, not fast enough. inequality is at an all-time high. too many folks are working bad jobs that don't offer them benefits and living opportunities that they deserve, don't allow them to feed their families the proper way. beyond that, let's be clear, this may be a short-term thing.
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if you look at long-term economic numbers, they're not all that great. we're seeing the tip of an iceberg on a system that i think has been fed a lot of early wood and in the long term will burn out. >> great points, all factually true. this is not a winning argument for democrats because the fact is more people are feeling good economically than have in past administrations. >> according to the consumer confidence level. >> yes. when i talk to democrats, i tell them health care and immigration. stick with those two issues. they are issues trump loses on, issues that americans care about, they're issues right in the wheelhouse and issues they won on the last election. don't deal with the economy and try to convince people. >> we don't have to. monmouth poll, only 12% of americans when presented with all the facts about how everything is booming, 12% say
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they feel like they've been impacted a great deal. >> let me know when you get a chance to tell them all the facts. >> if you look at the question, this says all the facts. they say, how do you think you benefitted? if people don't feel it in their own lives -- and barack obama experienced this. here is the problem. this president has lost credibility on so many other issues. he keeps trying to say it's great, it's great. people say my health care costs are going up. you said you were going to do something about that. you didn't. this plant closed. you said you were going to open it and you didn't. let's run on the economy and let's run on the broken promises. people are not feeling it. it's across the board. >> the number one salesman for the economy is the president. since the numbers came out friday, the president talked about how he did not discuss election interference with putin. he contradicted national security advisers on whether russia is involved with
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venezuela. now he just tweeted something about the kentucky derby and he spelled kentucky incorrectly. who is undermining the presidepresiden president's message more than the president? >> we've discussed this. i think the president -- i like the president's chances in this race in 2020 no matter who is at the top of the ticket as long as the gravity in the debate tends to be left of center, very progressive. >> medicare for all. green new deal allowing the boston bomber to vote. all those things. abortion will be a big issue. all those things very progressive, very left of center aren't going to play well in the states that the democrats need to capture to win the electoral map, pennsylvania, ohio, indiana, michigan, wisconsin. the ideas that the democrats are talking about play very well in new york, san francisco, chicago, new york. big cities. they do terribly. no, pretty much. 18 out of 20 perhaps. >> about 3 out of 21.
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>> let's look at the cnn polls. how is trump handling the economy? 56% approval for trump handling the economy. what do you think about trump's job as president? 52% disapprove. >> so the numbers, again -- as the guy who was on the campaign, our numbers were never even 43%. >> so you won with numbers like that. >> we won with numbers below that. >> our numbers were below that. >> to be fair, let's follow twitter into the scary mind of this man for a second. it's clear that despite whatever economic numbers he has he still thinks that the way to win an election by playing to a base through this clear white supremacy and racism. i come from a community that's been targeted quite a bit by him. the fact of the matter is we actually tomorrow will start the month of ramadan where muslims fast all month. we fast for two reasons. and the fact of the matter is, i think this president could take
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a lot of lessons from that and maybe fast with us for a day pause the fact of the matter is he does not appreciate that people who have what he has. there are people to whom he's accountable, the american people. he says he's a man of god. i'd love to see that in some of his actions. stop beating up on young people and start focusing on the things that say matter to you. >> for the record, he put out a ramadan statement. the white house did. >> ronald reagan had a favorite saying, you dance with the one that brung you. there's a reason donald trump is retweeting white supremacists and islam phobes and conspiracy theorists. they brung him. he's dancing with them. he's tripling down on this small base that elected him. >> we talked about that base. they elected him, but they weren't the only ones who elected him. also a codry of people who thought he's not going to be -- >> it is a minority of people -- >> lots of democrats that voted for him. >> exactly. they said, you know what?
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let's see how he does. he's a businessman, all these things, as kellyanne conway would say, their polling shows what offends me is not what affects me. now he has a record. and now we know it's not just that he's offensive. it's those offensive comments have consequences. people are being targeted, people are being hurt and not delivering on the things -- some of the things. great, conservative judges. that is not what is going to get moderates and independents to vote for him again when they have different choices. >> again, i'll say, as long as the democrats continue to talk about the things they're going to talk about. >> 3 out of 21 of them. >> i read the article by the aclu, all these debates, driving the debate on the suicide bomber, the boston bomber, other things. >> letting current prisoners vote. >> not all the democrats agreed with that. myself included. >> most of the people on the stage, the front-runners on the stage -- >> actually, that's not true. >> cory booker is polling at less than 1%. the front-runners on the stage --
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>> joe biden wouldn't -- >> let's wait and see what joe biden has to say. let's see what he has to say on the important issues. i think joe biden will slip to the left in his numbers. >> i spent the last two years touring the state of michigan talking to folks in blue districts and red districts. most don't feel the great economic numbers to a point -- second of all, there are two reasons why democrats lost the election. a, it's because people in the middle didn't come out for democrats. b, there's a large group that didn't come out at all. the fact of the matter is they want health care and paid family leave and $15 in the union. these are all issues that are front and center. >> we have to talk about president trump's new, shall we say, preoccupation with joe biden. that's the subject of this week's "state of the cartoonian" next. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all.
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welcome back. no matter how much his aides plead with him, president trump can't stop talking about his new political rival, vice president joe biden. that's this week's "state of the cartoonian." >> forget bob mueller. >> i don't know about him. i don't know. >> one morning this past week, the president retweeted anti-biden messages almost 60 times. an indication of how unobsessed he's clearly feeling, how unworried he is. >> i understand that the president has been tweeting a lot about me this morning. i wonder why the hell he's doing that. >> why the hell is he doing it? as a fellow follically challenged individual, is he curious about biden's solution? >> did i have a good hair day or not? >> is he worried about the results of a face-off over who has the most youthful vigor?
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>> i am a young, vibrant man. >> if he looks young and vibrant compared to me, i should probably go home. >> both of these gentlemen seem to lack a reliable filter. >> i wish we were in high school, i could take him behind the gym. >> one can only imagine where such a face-off might lead. were it to happen. >> we have some happy news to share from our "state of the union" family. he and his mom sandy are doing great and his dad senior producer could not be more proud of their sweet, gorgeous new baby. congratulations. president trump is downplaying russia's involvement in venezuela, contradicting his top advisers. what's the reality on the ground? that's next. ional... it's kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it's a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what,
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome you to the united states and all around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show, regime change. the trump administration has encouraged venezuelans to topple their leader. >> nicolas maduro must go. >> this week the opposition tried and failed. >> what's next for juan guaido? i'll talk to his u.s. representative. and the rumors of abu bakr al baghdadi's death was greatly overexaggerate. he seems to be very much alive and the terror group seems to be alive with the sri lanka
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